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	<title>Comments on: Avoidable Contact #12: Why the motoring press can&#8217;t even Focus on its own Astra.</title>
	<link>http://www.speedsportlife.com/2008/05/29/avoidable-contact-12-why-the-motoring-press-cant-even-focus-on-its-own-astra/</link>
	<description>Covering the latest in Automotive News, Events, and Trends</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 20:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.speedsportlife.com/2008/05/29/avoidable-contact-12-why-the-motoring-press-cant-even-focus-on-its-own-astra/#comment-72636</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loved reading the column but the reason the Focus is successful over the Astra even though it is a butt ugly decontented whore is the following:

1) Focii are cheap ($10kish)
2) GM is spending about $0 on advertising, marketing, etc for the Astra. Never seen a car commercial for one.
3) The majority of people will not buy a Saturn, no matter how its marketed or how inexpensive it is. Ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loved reading the column but the reason the Focus is successful over the Astra even though it is a butt ugly decontented whore is the following:</p>
<p>1) Focii are cheap ($10kish)<br />
2) GM is spending about $0 on advertising, marketing, etc for the Astra. Never seen a car commercial for one.<br />
3) The majority of people will not buy a Saturn, no matter how its marketed or how inexpensive it is. Ever.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Barrera</title>
		<link>http://www.speedsportlife.com/2008/05/29/avoidable-contact-12-why-the-motoring-press-cant-even-focus-on-its-own-astra/#comment-71796</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Barrera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Jack, for another fair comparison -- and a critique of our colleagues that buyers have every right to be in on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Jack, for another fair comparison &#8212; and a critique of our colleagues that buyers have every right to be in on.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://www.speedsportlife.com/2008/05/29/avoidable-contact-12-why-the-motoring-press-cant-even-focus-on-its-own-astra/#comment-71111</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Astra costs $2000 more than the Focus.  

That might have something to do with the success of the Focus.  I mean it's a class up in size on its price-competitors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Astra costs $2000 more than the Focus.  </p>
<p>That might have something to do with the success of the Focus.  I mean it&#8217;s a class up in size on its price-competitors.</p>
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		<title>By: carl</title>
		<link>http://www.speedsportlife.com/2008/05/29/avoidable-contact-12-why-the-motoring-press-cant-even-focus-on-its-own-astra/#comment-71087</link>
		<dc:creator>carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if you spend any time around Jack, you'll eventually figure out that he's a closet "Ford man" at heart, so i for one am not surprised by his stance here.  not saying i agree or disagree with his opinions on the focii, but i think this article is much more about the autojourno community than it is about the cars.  he just picked one particular example.  getting caught up in the car debate is missing the forest for the trees.

i've got one pinky toe, if that, in the door of "the industry," and i couldn't stop giggling the whole read, because it's spot-on.

when you get a fat, old, cheap-suit wearing, combover-rocking, personal hygeine-lacking "professional" columnist grab you by the backpack and yank you out of his sightline to a car on display, while you're simply trying to take a quick snapshot while no one else other than you or him are near the car, with the explanation of "you'd be mad if i got in front of your camera wouldn't YOU?!?!  This is what i DO."  -- you get a rude awakening into autojournalism.  the guy was just standing there, apparently discussing the finer points of the car's design with some other slob... no camera, no anything else to warn me of the danger of intruding upon "his" space.  here's to you, mr. autojourno guy.  i hope you DIAF.

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if you spend any time around Jack, you&#8217;ll eventually figure out that he&#8217;s a closet &#8220;Ford man&#8221; at heart, so i for one am not surprised by his stance here.  not saying i agree or disagree with his opinions on the focii, but i think this article is much more about the autojourno community than it is about the cars.  he just picked one particular example.  getting caught up in the car debate is missing the forest for the trees.</p>
<p>i&#8217;ve got one pinky toe, if that, in the door of &#8220;the industry,&#8221; and i couldn&#8217;t stop giggling the whole read, because it&#8217;s spot-on.</p>
<p>when you get a fat, old, cheap-suit wearing, combover-rocking, personal hygeine-lacking &#8220;professional&#8221; columnist grab you by the backpack and yank you out of his sightline to a car on display, while you&#8217;re simply trying to take a quick snapshot while no one else other than you or him are near the car, with the explanation of &#8220;you&#8217;d be mad if i got in front of your camera wouldn&#8217;t YOU?!?!  This is what i DO.&#8221;  &#8212; you get a rude awakening into autojournalism.  the guy was just standing there, apparently discussing the finer points of the car&#8217;s design with some other slob&#8230; no camera, no anything else to warn me of the danger of intruding upon &#8220;his&#8221; space.  here&#8217;s to you, mr. autojourno guy.  i hope you DIAF.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.speedsportlife.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: CarlW</title>
		<link>http://www.speedsportlife.com/2008/05/29/avoidable-contact-12-why-the-motoring-press-cant-even-focus-on-its-own-astra/#comment-71079</link>
		<dc:creator>CarlW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously you have talent when putting your thoughts on paper, but a wee bit of a protectionest of American made automobiles.

Correct me please if I am wrong,

Number of Saturn dealerships USA 430
Number of Ford dealerships USA 4,140

I am not a math wizard or such but my common sense tells me that Saturn will have one hell of a mountain to climb to be able to outsell a car that has quite an advantage as far as exposure, available units (production) not to mention large incentives as well.

If I remember correctly GM Saturn division stated in the early press releases that expected sales target for the Astra was 20-40,000 units per year.

Saturn is a niche market company, so to compare sales to a mainstream company seems hmmm rather ignorant, I'd say.

In worldwide markets were the Astra has the capacity to compete it does rather well.

IMO the car reviews worth paying any attention to are long term (1 month) were the reviewer actually has to live with the vehicle day in and day out.

Having owned Focus on both sides of the pond (three in North America and two in Europe) for my money I will pay for the eurotrash in a heart beat. 
BTW I am born and raised in North America, so as not to come across as a euro biased born person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously you have talent when putting your thoughts on paper, but a wee bit of a protectionest of American made automobiles.</p>
<p>Correct me please if I am wrong,</p>
<p>Number of Saturn dealerships USA 430<br />
Number of Ford dealerships USA 4,140</p>
<p>I am not a math wizard or such but my common sense tells me that Saturn will have one hell of a mountain to climb to be able to outsell a car that has quite an advantage as far as exposure, available units (production) not to mention large incentives as well.</p>
<p>If I remember correctly GM Saturn division stated in the early press releases that expected sales target for the Astra was 20-40,000 units per year.</p>
<p>Saturn is a niche market company, so to compare sales to a mainstream company seems hmmm rather ignorant, I&#8217;d say.</p>
<p>In worldwide markets were the Astra has the capacity to compete it does rather well.</p>
<p>IMO the car reviews worth paying any attention to are long term (1 month) were the reviewer actually has to live with the vehicle day in and day out.</p>
<p>Having owned Focus on both sides of the pond (three in North America and two in Europe) for my money I will pay for the eurotrash in a heart beat.<br />
BTW I am born and raised in North America, so as not to come across as a euro biased born person.</p>
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		<title>By: vwgilly</title>
		<link>http://www.speedsportlife.com/2008/05/29/avoidable-contact-12-why-the-motoring-press-cant-even-focus-on-its-own-astra/#comment-71043</link>
		<dc:creator>vwgilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Refreshing perspective as usual.  This site is hopefully picking up significant traffic due to some honest and entertaining writing.  Thanks for your efforts, Jack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Refreshing perspective as usual.  This site is hopefully picking up significant traffic due to some honest and entertaining writing.  Thanks for your efforts, Jack.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonny Lieberman</title>
		<link>http://www.speedsportlife.com/2008/05/29/avoidable-contact-12-why-the-motoring-press-cant-even-focus-on-its-own-astra/#comment-70540</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonny Lieberman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 22:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to go on record as a frustrated racer &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; novelist.

Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to go on record as a frustrated racer <i>and</i> novelist.</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: HotRod</title>
		<link>http://www.speedsportlife.com/2008/05/29/avoidable-contact-12-why-the-motoring-press-cant-even-focus-on-its-own-astra/#comment-70503</link>
		<dc:creator>HotRod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The "Avoidable Contact" series has to be some of the best automotive writing.  EVER.

And I've been sneering at all the new Focii I see on the road due to the reviews I've read.  I was wondering why I've only seen TWO of the Astras on the road, now I know why.  My apologies to all the Focii drivers, even though the next $16K I drop will be on a Civic or Fit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;Avoidable Contact&#8221; series has to be some of the best automotive writing.  EVER.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;ve been sneering at all the new Focii I see on the road due to the reviews I&#8217;ve read.  I was wondering why I&#8217;ve only seen TWO of the Astras on the road, now I know why.  My apologies to all the Focii drivers, even though the next $16K I drop will be on a Civic or Fit.</p>
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		<title>By: AKADriver</title>
		<link>http://www.speedsportlife.com/2008/05/29/avoidable-contact-12-why-the-motoring-press-cant-even-focus-on-its-own-astra/#comment-70456</link>
		<dc:creator>AKADriver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 01:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with everything you said - except for the tacit acceptance that what sells better is what &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; better for everyone.  It's better for Ford's shareholders and dealers, it's better for the 49,078 people who bought 'em.

But car magazines aren't written for those people.  They're written for people like us - people who aren't turned off to a car by a hatchback body or Euro-heiroglyphics on the controls.  People who would rather have a suspension designed for German pavement, which is closer to what we have here in Virginia than Detroit's - than the admittedly amazing Sync system.

The journalists may be hopelessly out of touch with buyers, but honestly - so am I.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with everything you said - except for the tacit acceptance that what sells better is what <i>is</i> better for everyone.  It&#8217;s better for Ford&#8217;s shareholders and dealers, it&#8217;s better for the 49,078 people who bought &#8216;em.</p>
<p>But car magazines aren&#8217;t written for those people.  They&#8217;re written for people like us - people who aren&#8217;t turned off to a car by a hatchback body or Euro-heiroglyphics on the controls.  People who would rather have a suspension designed for German pavement, which is closer to what we have here in Virginia than Detroit&#8217;s - than the admittedly amazing Sync system.</p>
<p>The journalists may be hopelessly out of touch with buyers, but honestly - so am I.</p>
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		<title>By: PSG</title>
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		<dc:creator>PSG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 18:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, Chewbacca.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Banovsky</title>
		<link>http://www.speedsportlife.com/2008/05/29/avoidable-contact-12-why-the-motoring-press-cant-even-focus-on-its-own-astra/#comment-70226</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Banovsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 15:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great editorial. I'm one of those writers that lauded the Astra and ditched on the Focus. Here in Canada, the pricing situation makes the Focus less competitive compared with its rivals (including the Canada-only City Golf/Jetta.) 

I, too, was on the launch and having driven a few Focii, I still can't understand why people buy them — but do understand that just a few years ago, the same could be said of the Chevrolet Cavalier/Pontiac Sunfire twins. And people loved 'em.

The point is I agree completely that many auto writers have Hiltonesque tendencies, with the expected five-star treatment at every stop. And I agree it clouds their judgement. Maybe (here in Canada, at least) the Ford was pissed on because for our stay at W in (rainy) Seattle, all we got was a USB drive and were back home the next day. 

The Saturn, however, was launched on a scenic highway jaunt down California's Highway 1 — a perfect location for Vitamin C-starved Canucks.

I'm happy that many of the newest generation of auto writers 'get it' as far as this profession is concerned. Take a look at my blog, or jilmcintosh.typepad.com, or (http://blog.fawny.org/2008/05/18/wheels-ethics/) to see the brewing commentary on the lack of ethics in automotive 'journalism', and I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.

As for the Focus and Astra...If it was my money I'd likely buy a barn-find Lamborghini Espada with missing trim and rusted floors. Hence why it's important to do the job properly and keep the consumer in mind. 


M!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great editorial. I&#8217;m one of those writers that lauded the Astra and ditched on the Focus. Here in Canada, the pricing situation makes the Focus less competitive compared with its rivals (including the Canada-only City Golf/Jetta.) </p>
<p>I, too, was on the launch and having driven a few Focii, I still can&#8217;t understand why people buy them — but do understand that just a few years ago, the same could be said of the Chevrolet Cavalier/Pontiac Sunfire twins. And people loved &#8216;em.</p>
<p>The point is I agree completely that many auto writers have Hiltonesque tendencies, with the expected five-star treatment at every stop. And I agree it clouds their judgement. Maybe (here in Canada, at least) the Ford was pissed on because for our stay at W in (rainy) Seattle, all we got was a USB drive and were back home the next day. </p>
<p>The Saturn, however, was launched on a scenic highway jaunt down California&#8217;s Highway 1 — a perfect location for Vitamin C-starved Canucks.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m happy that many of the newest generation of auto writers &#8216;get it&#8217; as far as this profession is concerned. Take a look at my blog, or jilmcintosh.typepad.com, or (http://blog.fawny.org/2008/05/18/wheels-ethics/) to see the brewing commentary on the lack of ethics in automotive &#8216;journalism&#8217;, and I think you&#8217;ll be pleasantly surprised.</p>
<p>As for the Focus and Astra&#8230;If it was my money I&#8217;d likely buy a barn-find Lamborghini Espada with missing trim and rusted floors. Hence why it&#8217;s important to do the job properly and keep the consumer in mind. </p>
<p>M!</p>
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		<title>By: Jacksadouche</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacksadouche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 14:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Convicted rapist? I thought you were convicted of something else, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Convicted rapist? I thought you were convicted of something else, no?</p>
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		<title>By: Jo</title>
		<link>http://www.speedsportlife.com/2008/05/29/avoidable-contact-12-why-the-motoring-press-cant-even-focus-on-its-own-astra/#comment-70219</link>
		<dc:creator>Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 13:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack should write more - always the high point of the autojournos.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack should write more - always the high point of the autojournos.  <img src='http://www.speedsportlife.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Dave E.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 04:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article Jack. I really enjoyed reading it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article Jack. I really enjoyed reading it.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 03:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love it....love the insider view, love the humor, love that you hit the nail right on the head.  This is one of the more entertaining blog postings I've read in a long while.  Thank you...made my night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love it&#8230;.love the insider view, love the humor, love that you hit the nail right on the head.  This is one of the more entertaining blog postings I&#8217;ve read in a long while.  Thank you&#8230;made my night.</p>
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		<title>By: doug mckenzie</title>
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		<dc:creator>doug mckenzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 01:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great piece, Mr. Baruth.  Automotive journalists are the bottom feeders of the auto industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great piece, Mr. Baruth.  Automotive journalists are the bottom feeders of the auto industry.</p>
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