Comments on: Avoidable Contact #22: The rise and sad fall of Car and Driver. http://www.speedsportlife.com/2008/12/23/avoidable-contact-22-the-rise-and-sad-fall-of-car-and-driver/ Covering the latest in Automotive News, Events, and Trends Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:33:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: zuul http://www.speedsportlife.com/2008/12/23/avoidable-contact-22-the-rise-and-sad-fall-of-car-and-driver/comment-page-1/#comment-91573 zuul Thu, 11 Jun 2009 02:53:11 +0000 http://www.speedsportlife.com/2008/12/23/avoidable-contact-22-the-rise-and-sad-fall-of-car-and-driver/#comment-91573 i grew up reading road and track in the 70's and early 80's but as an adult i tend to pick up old school issues of c/d as you suggest... apparently great minds think alike... mostly i think car magazine out of england is one of the better mags and has been for quite some time although hard to find and expensive... also brock yates books are pretty good.. especially the ferrari book.... i grew up reading road and track in the 70's and early 80's but as an adult i tend to pick up old school issues of c/d as you suggest… apparently great minds think alike… mostly i think car magazine out of england is one of the better mags and has been for quite some time although hard to find and expensive… also brock yates books are pretty good.. especially the ferrari book….

]]> By: Ed M. http://www.speedsportlife.com/2008/12/23/avoidable-contact-22-the-rise-and-sad-fall-of-car-and-driver/comment-page-1/#comment-91367 Ed M. Sat, 16 May 2009 04:54:01 +0000 http://www.speedsportlife.com/2008/12/23/avoidable-contact-22-the-rise-and-sad-fall-of-car-and-driver/#comment-91367 A little late to the party but I had to comment. I no longer subscribe to any of the big 3 magazines (4 if you count Automobile). I occasionally pick up R&T to read Peter Egan's column but everything else is the same road test from C&D and MT slightly reworded. I truly miss C&D from the 70s and 80s. It was such an awesome read and their project cars were always a blast. A little late to the party but I had to comment. I no longer subscribe to any of the big 3 magazines (4 if you count Automobile). I occasionally pick up R&T to read Peter Egan's column but everything else is the same road test from C&D and MT slightly reworded. I truly miss C&D from the 70s and 80s. It was such an awesome read and their project cars were always a blast.

]]> By: ExiledTexan http://www.speedsportlife.com/2008/12/23/avoidable-contact-22-the-rise-and-sad-fall-of-car-and-driver/comment-page-1/#comment-91268 ExiledTexan Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:26:25 +0000 http://www.speedsportlife.com/2008/12/23/avoidable-contact-22-the-rise-and-sad-fall-of-car-and-driver/#comment-91268 I'm glad the poster ahead of me mentioned P.J. O'Rourke. I still remember his article (diary?) on driving a 1956 Buick from Florida to California to deliver to its owner. 30+ years later, I still laugh at one day's entry: "Drunk all day in Phoenix" . I'm glad the poster ahead of me mentioned P.J. O'Rourke. I still remember his article (diary?) on driving a 1956 Buick from Florida to California to deliver to its owner. 30+ years later, I still laugh at one day's entry: "Drunk all day in Phoenix" .

]]> By: ShelbyGuy http://www.speedsportlife.com/2008/12/23/avoidable-contact-22-the-rise-and-sad-fall-of-car-and-driver/comment-page-1/#comment-90802 ShelbyGuy Tue, 31 Mar 2009 03:11:37 +0000 http://www.speedsportlife.com/2008/12/23/avoidable-contact-22-the-rise-and-sad-fall-of-car-and-driver/#comment-90802 I remember the first issue I picked up - the Cannonball sea-to-shining-sea - I had found a home. It was the first time I remembered looking for the byline, and read the articles from favorite to least - DED, PB, BY, et. al. However I am disappointed that you left out P. J. O'Rourke - after the Harvard Lampoon, but before punditry. Fun stuff I remember the first issue I picked up – the Cannonball sea-to-shining-sea – I had found a home. It was the first time I remembered looking for the byline, and read the articles from favorite to least – DED, PB, BY, et. al. However I am disappointed that you left out P. J. O'Rourke – after the Harvard Lampoon, but before punditry. Fun stuff

]]> By: Hamish Wilson http://www.speedsportlife.com/2008/12/23/avoidable-contact-22-the-rise-and-sad-fall-of-car-and-driver/comment-page-1/#comment-90703 Hamish Wilson Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:12:45 +0000 http://www.speedsportlife.com/2008/12/23/avoidable-contact-22-the-rise-and-sad-fall-of-car-and-driver/#comment-90703 Well said Mr Baruth. I lucked on your blog looking for why Csere “resigned”. I too began reading C&D in the halcyon days - the late 60’s. It opened a new world to a young man down under, and I still have most of the back issues in the cellar for a rainy day or whatever. Then, the day the new issue arrived, it would be read cover to cover that night. Now, it sits around for up to two months, hence my late discovery of this event. Every renewal time, I think, continue or? And I usually do pay up one more time in the hope it might morph backwards into the C&D of old. Faint hope I think, and if Philips also goes that will be it. Hamish Wilson, New Zealand Well said Mr Baruth. I lucked on your blog looking for why Csere “resigned”. I too began reading C&D in the halcyon days – the late 60’s. It opened a new world to a young man down under, and I still have most of the back issues in the cellar for a rainy day or whatever. Then, the day the new issue arrived, it would be read cover to cover that night. Now, it sits around for up to two months, hence my late discovery of this event. Every renewal time, I think, continue or? And I usually do pay up one more time in the hope it might morph backwards into the C&D of old. Faint hope I think, and if Philips also goes that will be it.

Hamish Wilson, New Zealand

]]> By: vwlarry http://www.speedsportlife.com/2008/12/23/avoidable-contact-22-the-rise-and-sad-fall-of-car-and-driver/comment-page-1/#comment-87831 vwlarry Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:34:03 +0000 http://www.speedsportlife.com/2008/12/23/avoidable-contact-22-the-rise-and-sad-fall-of-car-and-driver/#comment-87831 Thank you Jack. Now, get up off the floor! {picture unavailable "laughing face" avatar here} Thank you Jack. Now, get up off the floor!

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]]> By: Jack Baruth http://www.speedsportlife.com/2008/12/23/avoidable-contact-22-the-rise-and-sad-fall-of-car-and-driver/comment-page-1/#comment-87801 Jack Baruth Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:47:40 +0000 http://www.speedsportlife.com/2008/12/23/avoidable-contact-22-the-rise-and-sad-fall-of-car-and-driver/#comment-87801 Pleased to see you here, vwlarry. This is rather like receiving a visit from royalty! Pleased to see you here, vwlarry. This is rather like receiving a visit from royalty!

]]> By: vwlarry http://www.speedsportlife.com/2008/12/23/avoidable-contact-22-the-rise-and-sad-fall-of-car-and-driver/comment-page-1/#comment-87764 vwlarry Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:06:27 +0000 http://www.speedsportlife.com/2008/12/23/avoidable-contact-22-the-rise-and-sad-fall-of-car-and-driver/#comment-87764 This is my first visit to SSL, and the first piece that I've read within. Mr. Baruth tells the sad truth about the withered remains of Car and Driver. Few reading experiences are more enjoyable for me than pulling out any issue from their cited "golden age" and re-reading it just for the pleasure of experiencing, one more time, the sheer wit and daring and FUN that they brought to my mailbox once each month all those years ago. From "ed," to DED Jr. to Yates to Bruce McCall to the GREAT Jean Shepherd and so much more, CandD was the greatest car mag in the Milky Way. It still is...er...was. Oh well. Sorta like Rick Blaine said to Ilsa; "We'll always have Paris." This is my first visit to SSL, and the first piece that I’ve read within. Mr. Baruth tells the sad truth about the withered remains of Car and Driver. Few reading experiences are more enjoyable for me than pulling out any issue from their cited “golden age” and re-reading it just for the pleasure of experiencing, one more time, the sheer wit and daring and FUN that they brought to my mailbox once each month all those years ago. From “ed,” to DED Jr. to Yates to Bruce McCall to the GREAT Jean Shepherd and so much more, CandD was the greatest car mag in the Milky Way. It still is…er…was.

Oh well. Sorta like Rick Blaine said to Ilsa; “We’ll always have Paris.”

]]> By: Matt Train http://www.speedsportlife.com/2008/12/23/avoidable-contact-22-the-rise-and-sad-fall-of-car-and-driver/comment-page-1/#comment-86763 Matt Train Wed, 07 Jan 2009 22:51:02 +0000 http://www.speedsportlife.com/2008/12/23/avoidable-contact-22-the-rise-and-sad-fall-of-car-and-driver/#comment-86763 You know, Wes never really believes me when I tell him he is a truly gifted auto writer. I hope - I really, really hope - that one day he becomes the Peter Egan I think he has the potential to be. You know, Wes never really believes me when I tell him he is a truly gifted auto writer.

I hope – I really, really hope – that one day he becomes the Peter Egan I think he has the potential to be.

]]> By: Jeff GLucker http://www.speedsportlife.com/2008/12/23/avoidable-contact-22-the-rise-and-sad-fall-of-car-and-driver/comment-page-1/#comment-86303 Jeff GLucker Fri, 02 Jan 2009 22:06:06 +0000 http://www.speedsportlife.com/2008/12/23/avoidable-contact-22-the-rise-and-sad-fall-of-car-and-driver/#comment-86303 This was a good read, thank you Mr. Baruth. (and thanks to Brian above for pointing it out to me...) I will be combing through my father in-laws stacks of C/D next time I am back east... This was a good read, thank you Mr. Baruth. (and thanks to Brian above for pointing it out to me…)

I will be combing through my father in-laws stacks of C/D next time I am back east…

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